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Free Store Club
All Does anybody know if about the Free Store Club? It is called EMM (Exact Method Marketing). I don't know if this is a scam or pyramid or legal. I joined it for 10 dollars a month at the Silver level. Anybody know about it? :confused:
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Hi,
I noticed your post about the Free Store Club (found this site from Google). I was looking for the same information and wondered whether you had any replies to your question. I joined as a Gold for $50 but when I asked them what I was supposed to do next they said I should buy an email list and promote it. I thought it was nothing to do with MLM so I was surprised. I may be naive but I got the impression that they had huge traffic to these sites and they did a lot of marketing to increase that. Today I received an email from another anti scam site on the internet saying that this is a scam but not saying why it is a scam. Would love to hear from you if you know more. Thanks, Kathy |
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Greetings,
I have been a member of FSC since beginning as I know Paul Burke the CEO, and knew him to be an ethical business owner. As a NASCAR sports promotions company, we sold a sponsor postion on a Craftsman Truck a couple years ago and he paid as agreed. In our industry, this is not always the case. As to FSC, I used the web site to promote some of my own products, and it was worth the $50. per month just for the search engine advantages. The store they provide has some great values, and excellent service as I have ordered many times from my own FSC, with no issues. Certainly, if you join and do nothing, there is little chance to recoup your own hosting costs, but so many beleive in the spillover fairy that they will join for this reason alone. I found it refreshing that they do not hype program and the EMM is a well designed marketing approach. It is usually the individual promoters which will hype program, but it clearly is not the company if you bothered to read the EMM course. If you have something to sell, then open your own FSC site and list it. If you are joining to take advantage of great prices, then this is a good reason to join as well. If you are joining and plan on doing nothing, then don't join. It is really that simple. I supply several vendors at local flea market with items purchased through my FSC and have never had a complaint about quality and value of merchandise. Where else can you purchase a good umbrella for a few dollars and can sell them all day at $7.00 for double profits. Regards, Mike |
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for setting my mind at rest. The Free Store Club set up certainly impressed me until I got that email saying that it was a scam. I have read the EMM and I do understand that I need to actually do something to make it work. What concerned me after getting the email was whether the products were 'real', good quality and were actually delivered but thanks to you, I now know better. With gratitude, Kathy |
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Hi Kathy,
It has been almost three years and I have never heard a complaint, and with all the scam forums out there, you would think if they were not for real they would have been shut down by now, right? (g) Seriously, I have seen their warehouse and they have been located at the same address for over 5 years, could be 7, although under a different company name, LightHouse America, so they are a real business. As to products and quality, this too would have surfaced if it was questioned. I have bought a ton and used them for a lot of gifts, and no one has complained of quality. I have used a few dozen items personally, and I am impressed. As example, a rosewood pen set makes a great gift, and I kept one for myself, it is now my favorite pen, and the set was less than $3.00 in a rosewood box, heck, the box was worth $3.00. (LOL) The knives are extremely good, and I bought several sets having gotten tired of sharpening my Sabatier's every month. I want knives that cut and never need sharpening, and FSC has them, tons of them. I could go on and on, but I am not trying to sell you since you are already a member. Make a few purchases and see for yourself in the only way you will know what you have in FSC, great value. Good luck, Mike http://Arbitrage-Better.com |
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I have been reading several responses to my original post about FSC. Ok, I got that it has great merchandise. I have never really questioned the store part of it. My question was making money by way of others joining. I still can figure out (and I may be a dunce :confused: ) but..is it legal to make money just because someone joins and pays their 10 or 50 dollars a month? Ok that's it. That is the only question I have about it. Other than this quesiton it seems they are ok and right on track. Thanks.. :D Beth P. |
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Hi Beth,
This is a common question with most businesses, what am I selling? In the case of FSC you are selling a store front on the internet, a shopping portal if you will. In short, if you were to set up a store to sell your merchandise, it would cost a heck of a lot more than $10. or $50. per month. Hosting your site is part of the fee, as well as having a merchant account which will process all your sales. So to make it simple, what you are selling is an internet retail store front which provides you the opportunity to sell your own products and services, or to sell what FSC already has in their inventory. The credit card merchant account combined with all the tools you have to customize your store are worth the small fee to anyone who knows similar stores would cost far more. If you have been in your back office, there are many features which will help you succeed at your FSC business, but only if you use it will it be worth the price. This is true with everything, so get familiar with what is offered and then go out and see if you can find this same storefront elswhere for less. Only then will you realize the value of a FSC web site. Regards, Mike http://Arbitrage-Better.com |
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Hi Beth
I am new here...and what you need to do for your Free Store Club site is to get qualified traffic to it in order to get new affiliates...if you are having difficulty in this please feel free to ask and I will pass on a few free suggestions. I have been a member for 6 months or so now...and can help if you want. :) Clare |
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Hi Clare or anyone who is having success with free store club,
I was reading your response to Beth. You said you can help her out with the Free Store Club promotion...getting quality traffic. Free suggestions...I have been a member of free store club for approx. 3 months. I am not having much success. Please help me. Thanks Vince |
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I just had a look at the compensation plan for free store club and it is a binary . These type of plans can be very deceptive and usually result in more money to the owner. Do a google search on say binary + matrix + unilevel + compensation to get the scoop. Most people joining a binary (being absolutely honest) would join up serveral different groups and then join the one where the most people were signing up to. You still however have your private leg to build (you won't get any spillover to this one - this is the decptive thing that snares people). Vince if you want to get some customers use "google adwords" and other PPC advertising and advertise one product at a time (not sure if you have product specific pages) i.e. you need targeted traffic. Use words you would use if you were after that specific product. Be careful watch how much you spend, refine, and stop if you are spending too much money with no result. The freestore lead capture website looks a little tacky. The reason I responded to this post is that I got a email about 94percent dot com which is a feeder for freestore. If i were to join freestore i would use that as the feeder for recruiting. For advertising the feeder i would use traffic exchanges. 94percent will get a pretty high signup rate as most people who use TEs are biz. op seekers. It attracted me. I have seen hundred of freestore lead capture pages on the TEs. They are boring. I pass them by. 94percent dot com is enticing - and the hype nearly sucked me in. |
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Hi. I joined FSC two years ago and I got what I expected. I spent $10 in the silver club and actually got lots of people under me but few spending money.
I ordered merchandise and I was satisfied. You have to work this program. Would not call it a scam. |
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Greetings,
As I have stated earlier, and as many seem to also be aware of, FSC is not a scam, but I agree, unless you are a master marketer, don't expect to make any money with FSC. Sorry, but I worked it hard for the first year to a point I have a very balanced binary of 12K plus on each side, and although I have made money, and continue to be paid, it dwindles faster and faster for one very obvious reason, most quit before they begin. Sad, but true, very often it is not the fault of the program, but more the fault of all the quitters in the world. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people quit just before they could have succeeded. By this I mean, a person will usually quit if they are not earning enough to justify the monthly costs to qualify, as is the case with most MLM's, not just FSC. With only a $10. monthly cost, still most will never see breakeven, so the quit. Spillover happens, but not as most are led to expect. EMM goes to great length to spell it out, but still, most people never refer more than one, so their efforts are lost as FSC requires two each. If everyone sold two, it would be a great program, but MLMers never get one, never mind two. I have researched thousands of businesses over the years, and when I see what has happened with FSC, I would never have believed so many would drop put of this one with the excellent EMM series of email autoreponder messages which warn of this in MLM industry. Still, the average person is just not capable of succeeding at any MLM, so here in lies the problem. Unless you are committed to work hard and long, you will never make it in your won business, MLM or otherwise. So my advise would be not to count on making any serious income from FSC unless you follow the ssytem to a "T". Good luck, Mike http://RiskFreeSportsBet.com |
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I have a question for those that have tried it once you set up your free store do you get any profit if someone buys from it that sounds to good to be true because you arent required to spend any money for the store just to market it.
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No, You don't start to make money until you have 4 personally referred Silver Upgraded members, and 4 spillover silver Upgraded members at the least. And then it is only enough to cover your monthly subscriptions.
Clare |
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If you sell merchandise from your store, yes depending on what level, silver or gold, and what prices you set for you store, you do earn on these sales, not just on others who purchase stores. Good Luck, Mike http://RiskFreeSportsBet.com |
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Hi everyone, I joined Free Store 6 months ago, didn't do anything, as they didn't have many products, checked on it the other day they have more products and claim to have 2.5 million members. If they continue on I see it as a good business opportunity, in the future. I buy more and more things over the internet,and it is my reality that in
5 years, the internet and stores like FSC will replace shopping Malls. See Ya, Alan Http://diamonddille.xangoweb.com |
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The FSC do not seem to be a scam. The problem is when everybody is promoting and nobody is buying. Why would you buy products at somebody else's store when you can get your own for free and buy at wholesale price? I don't think there is much money to be made from it anymore.
The same with promoting products sold at Clickbank as an affiliate. http://cb-top.com is a Clickbank mall that everybody can get for free, as well as cbclicks, everybody now has a Clickbank ID, everybody recognise a product sold at Clickbank and everybody use their own nickname to buy it. It is not a scam, it just get less and less profitable to market it as an affiliate. Maybe if they make FSC and Clickbank that you cannot buy and take commission for yourself, it will be better again, but I doubt it. The owners of the products on the other hand keeps on making a profit as usual, they do not care who gets the commission, and who marketed it or not. You can spend thousands of dollars marketing products, then the buyers just use their own nickname when buying, they get it at a discount, the owner smiles, and you made nothing. |
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How computer savvy do you have to be to do this store over the Internet? And how much does it cost to get started? I desperately need to find some extra income but I'm not sure I know enough about it to even get started. Can anyone help?
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Sadly, most people are looking for that perfect program that will allow them to earn a living on the internet, and there are a few programs that will set you free, sadly, for most, FSC is not one of them. As mentioned earlier, I can say it is not a scam, and they do offer good prices on numerous products, but unless you can spend the money to market FSC, don't think you will make much on the products unless you can sell them yourself. FSC is great for someone who needs an easy online mall to sell their own products through, but it is not easy to drive traffic to any store, even Amazon is tough to get people to buy from as an affiliate. The internet is too crowded and too expensive to generate traffic to these days. My best advice is to pass on FSC as it is not performing for me as it once did and I worked it real hard and spent a lot of money sending traffic to sight. Yes, I am still a member, but the income I was earning is slowly disappearing due to attrition, the fate most MLM type programs suffer from after a couple years. Good luck in your search, Mike http://Arbitrage-Better.com |
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I have been in FSC for a while and agree that this is not where your fortunes are to be made. I know how you feel though...I had to satisfy my husband that all the hours spent cruising around different sites and deals were going to pay off!! They did finally!!
I have found something that REALLY works though in the last 2 weeks I have earned over $900USD. I am benefactoring people to do the same to prove that it works to others without any risk!!(if anyone is interested I am happy to share the details...but would not post specific details here - it would not be appropriate. Feel free to email me at: claresbiz@coolgoose.com And I will be open to benefactoring anyone to get started without risk. This is a bonafide good will offering...I haven't been giving enough away and this is repaying my "debt" if you will. I know what it is like to make NOTHING and spend spend spend. This was a refreshing and encouraging change - and renewed my faith in making money online!! Kind regards Clare |
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Thanks for the advice about Free Store Club. I have decided to leave the club because I just do not have the time or financial resources necessary to make this work.
In fairness, I was looking for something that did not take up too much of my time or money. I have a full time career and very little time to spare. FSC has potential but not for someone who just wants to put in a few hours every now and then. I think in hindsight (isn't it a wonderful thing!), I should not have paid $50 a month to go gold until I was absolutely convinced that I could get people to buy from the site. Friends and family did not like the products enough to buy and I became very discouraged after that. None of this is a reflection on the FSC system. My reasons are personal. Be well, Kathy |
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Greetings,
Good observation, if you don't have the time, don't waste the money. FSC is only good for those who have items to sell, and need a storefront to sell them at a very low cost. Besides, having other items enhances your income potential as traffic you send to your site could produce more sales with more items. As far as opportunities go, this one is spent with a million and a half already registered, and few making any serious money, it is hardly worth getting involved now. Got to get in early for any hope of success in any MLM these days. Good luck, Mike http://RiskFreeSportsBet.com |
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Has anyone made money at FSC? I've been in it for a month, I've noticed spillover, with one silver member. I've been advertising as much as I can -- for both the store and the membership.
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I have recently found a way to make money with Free Store Club.
Start again, and go through a feeder programme that provides you with a downline...as well as your own marketing efforts. This is working...and finally seeing some downlines will be all the proof you will need : ) Try this, and join FSC through them!! http://www.1minutewealth.com/index2.php?siteId=778 God Bless clare |
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Okay Clare you have my attention. Before I enter into a new venture, can you tell me how long it took before you saw a return, or at least saw your monthly fee paid -- I'm kind of skiddish at the moment, I haven't seen any returns. :)
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Firstly this is not a get rich quick scheme...you will not see profit in your first month most likely.
This is a Get Rich Scheme...but it will be steady growth...not quick!! This is because the programme is reliant on people getting back to admin with their affiliate links, so that the next person in line can enrol under them...and it is a matrix that this programme is filling...in your choice of 5 different programmes...including FSC. So as the matrix fills..it will take longer to get your signups......Having said that...this programme is being VERY well promoted..and has signups just about by the second. And it is VERY new....only a month or two old...so is going really well. I am seeing numerous sign ups and upgrades every day..and every hour too! So with that kind of growth, and it being a very early programme...we may well succeed here. When you enrol for free..you will see by email each person entering the programme...so they are really working this programme to be successful for the large majority. It is at present a lowly staffed venture..until next month...and therefore the join up links take a couple of days to a week to get to you...Steve (the Owner) is working the programme pretty much alone) - for those of you who do upgrade to take benefit of it. But I am impressed with the service, the admin (very polite and courteous) and think it has a good show of working. That's about all I can tell you. Kind regards Clare |
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Why not just join cj.com for free and build and host your own shopping portal for cheaper than $50 a month.
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Because this does not cost anything like $50 per month!! And you will have no help promoting that...this provides you with downline over time..without your own promotional efforts!
Clare |
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Greetings,
I have been using FSC since beginning over three years ago, so it is hardly a scam or ponzi, but like all MLM's, don't think you will get rich with it. I had worked it hard for the first two years and have thousands under me, yet I see most who never upgrade, or stop paying after a couple months since nothing happens unless you work at it, and sadly, most don't. Simply put, if you think others will spill over in your downline, it rarely happens. As well thought out as the EMM program was trying to educate people into just getting two, few ever get one paying member, never mind the required two. MLM doesn't work unless everyone does, and FSC is no different. Good Luck, Mike http://PIPS-PureInvestor.com http://Arbitrage-Sports.com |
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But is anybody MAKING ANY MONEY with Free Store Club?
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Hello! Before I begin rambeling, I just want to say I am VERY new to the fsc, I am only asking alot of questions because I simply want to know from others that have been here, questioning this whole thing before I put alot of time/money into it.
okay.... I joined the fsc only about 6 days ago. the first day i was free, then I bumped up to silver. I figure for $10 month I would see what the hype was about. I like that I can edit store prices, that's about the difference I see between free and paid. My downline report says "18 free" and "1 silver" 'under' me, of which 2 freebies are inactive. What does all that mean to me? Im just asking because I really don't understand this "chain reaction" type business but why do I care how many people join under me? I read in one of the posts that I need at least 4 silver or golds under me to make anything, is that true or did I read it wrong? And if it is true do I need to upgrade to gold to get any profits or stay above someone else that may 'go gold'? I am not lazy, I know how to promote, sell and work. I sell other wholesale company products from a few places. (wholesale dropship companies) I sell those products online at my own personal website, auction sites, buy them myself etc. I haven't listed any products from the fsc though due to all and more of these concerns. I don't like to jump into new things whole heartedly before I know the costs to me both timely and fiscally. I do not mind having to work to sell these products and to get others under me, if that's what it takes im game, it's alot easier than what I do now for a living. I just don't want to be the only one buying from my store if you know what I mean. And as for upgrading again, are the profits from sales w/in the store even better if I go from silver to gold if I don't edit the default costs? (which I have already done anyway) Also, one last question, I read somewhere on here about something like "selling your own stuff". This person was obviously a gold member, can you sell your own stuff when you're gold? What makes gold better than silver besides a lower cost of products? Thanks to everyone that answers |
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Well Lots of Questions there.
I personally would not upgrade to Silver or gold until I had a few referrals under me on one side (even on spillover side) - unless I was working with a downline service...who are providing downline for me. Now, the problem you will find is that the market is so smothered that if you are trying to get new referrals, you will find - like the rest of us, that it is quite difficult to do alone. If you are in it just to purchase the products for cheaper..then more ***** to you! If you are in it for a business, I suggest that you look at other options - such as getting another company (a downline builder) to assist you. I am part of 1minutewealth - which I pay $25 a month to work on my downlines in this company, and another of my choice. I suggest that this is the way to go. You pay all up about $40 a month...(including subs for the two but you can choose up to five companies of your choice) and they provide paid downline for you. They are currently building their 5-7th levels of matrixes which means that it can take 2-3 months to be in profit - sometimes 4. But I would suggest that this will continue to grow, and will make money for you steadily and in the long term...you will get rich (NOT a get rich QUICK scheme!). If you want more info on how this is done, I am happy to help...just email claresbiz@coolgoose.com and I will give you the url to join with. If you are looking at building a second income this is really the way to do it. Thanks Clare |
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The freestore products are passable...not award-winning, and not wholesale.
What i can't get past is the pyramid structure, wherein you make profits by recruiting others...and the storefronts just seem like a dodge to keep the FTC of their collective backs. Owning or even leasing a store is an respectable trade, but owning a mirror-linked page and headhunting for more link buyers doesn't fit the same definition, as I see it. I'm sure the CEO is a fine man, but this isn't personal, it's business...and business has a way of bringing out the shark in many people. JB. SAM |
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Not recommending use of downline builder front-end anymore.
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I have been with the freestoreclub since July 2004, and to answer your question, YES I am making money. I am getting weekly checks now all from giving away stores and promoting product online. I took a while but I have covered all my cost including my monthly ad budget. an now I'm starting to profit. I use mostly pay per click advertizing, but i am also having some success with free ads. One free ad source in particular is call instantbuzz.com. You will have to download the program (it's completely safe). It uses a *****ful viral ad system utilizing unused space on your IE web browser. They also have a vibrant community of marketers that are all willing to help and support. You can only get it by invitation. If you would like an invite contact me here http://www.makerealmoneyonline.com/ib-invite.htm thanks Rob |
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im new and looking for something .. this seems sorta legit email me and give me some details.
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FSC is like any other business opportunity or job. You get out of it what you put into it. You can join for FREE, and they have training lessons to take and accomplish. They have regular conference calls you can listen in on to learn how to make it work better for you. Just depends on how much time you're willing to invest.
I really joined because my brother asked me to. I do have a Silver membership for $10 a month. I buy my motorcycle leathers on the site and do buy other items for gifts. It's very well done and they are constantly upgrading the look of the site and the management tools. I don't expect I'll ever make money, but you never know. It's definately not a get rich quick scheme. If you want something you can do at home on the computer, and make money, look at doing medical transcription or something along those lines. |
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No I agree with the other posters, it's not a scam because you can choose to have a free store (premium free membership) $10.00 a month (silver membership) 50.00 a month (gold membership) which allow you to sell your own merchandise on the site.
you can choose to sell items whole sell or with 50.00 membership and silver 10.00 a month set your own price for the items. you get a website fully stocked already with merchandise, each membership offer something different and with your free store you go into a back office to check traffic to your store, promote your store. There are other ways they offer to help promote your free store for you. FSC Business Cards FSC Pull-Tab Posters FSC Informational Flyers Full-Year Calendars (for this year and next year) FSC Letterhead FSC Post Cards (front and back) FSC Memo Sheets FSC Fax Cover Sheets FSC File Labels FSC Stickers :) |
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